Review of Newsweek article “The Bible: So Misunderstood It’s a Sin”

Q. I am so grateful I came across your blog. I struggled with understanding about the Trinity, it just never seemed logical that three could be one. I finally started to see that as a possibility. But then I read an article in Newsweek magazine entitled “The Bible: So Misunderstood It’s a Sin.” I still totally know that God exists, the Son exists, and the Holy Spirit exists. But that article claims that the Scriptures might no longer be presented in a a totally correct dialect any longer. If, indeed, they have been changed, why have they not been taken back to the original Greek, to be totally accurate again?

I read the Newsweek article for the first time after I received your question. Let me share some thoughts about it.

I think one important thing to say first about the article is that it is completely one-sided. The sources for the article are all people who do not believe that the Bible is the word of God. Indeed, some of them, such as Bart Ehrman, are former believers who now actively oppose the faith. Imagine if someone wrote an article about a company and cited as sources only disgruntled former employees. Would we consider that fair and accurate reporting? There are very good responses to all of the claims that this article makes, and it would have been responsible journalism to seek out and quote believing biblical scholars who could have given those responses. That would at least have told both sides of the story, whatever the reporter believed personally. Instead, the tone and bias of the article make me feel that Newsweek was engaging in sensationalism. The fact that they published the article a couple of days before Christmas (on December 23, 2014) suggests that they were indeed trying to be provocative, which I find cynical and disappointing. So please take all of these things into account as you think about this article. Do not regard it as a fair and balanced treatment of its subject.

As for the claims that the article makes, while they are presented as if they were news that would stun believers, they come as absolutely no surprise to people who are well familiar with the Bible. For example, the author, Kurt Eichenwald, says at one point that preachers and politicians have not read the Bible; “Neither has the pope. Neither have I. And neither have you.” It turns out that he means that no one has read the originals of the biblical writings. And that is quite true. We no longer have the originals. All we have are copies. But we have many independent copies, and for the New Testament writings, they date back to close to the composition of the works themselves. The oldest ones differ in small ways, but that simply increases our confidence in them as independent witnesses.

Indeed, Bibles published by and for people who believe in the Scriptures as the word of God are careful to say where the copies differ. Let me use as an example one case that Eichenwald cites. The New International Version (NIV) includes a note before the story of the woman caught in adultery that explains, “The earliest manuscripts and many other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53–8:11.” The English Standard Version (ESV) notes similarly, “The earliest manuscripts do not include 7:53–8:11.” And so forth. So believing biblical scholars are aware that John most likely did not write this section, and they are completely forthcoming about that.

I would say further that Eichenwald’s claim, “The event simply never happened,” is not justified by the absence of the account from early manuscripts of the gospel of John. Rather, as Bruce Metzger says, writing on behalf of the Editorial Committee of the United Bible Societies’ Greek New Testament, “The account has all the earmarks of historical veracity. It is obviously a piece of oral tradition which circulated in various parts of the Western church and which was subsequently incorporated into various manuscripts at various places.”

Eichenwald says further that the biblical manuscript tradition includes “changes made by literate scribes centuries after the manuscripts were written because of what they decided were flaws in the accounts they were recopying.” He cites this example:

An early version of Luke 3:16 in the New Testament said, “John answered, saying to all of them.…” The problem was that no one had asked John anything, so a fifth century scribe fixed that by changing the words to “John, knowing what they were thinking, said.…” Today, most modern English Bibles have returned to the correct, yet confusing, “John answered.” Others, such as the New Life Version Bible, use other words that paper over the inconsistency.

Let me say in response first that this is not an inconsistency. This is simply a Hebrew idiom—”he answered and said”—that Luke is employing, even though he is writing in Greek. This Hebrew idiom can indicate how someone responded to a situation, not just to a question that someone asked. But the fifth-century scribe apparently no longer understood that idiom and felt that he needed to account for the term “answered” somehow. So is this evidence that errors have crept into the Bible steadily over the centuries? No, this is actually a demonstration of the self-correcting process of manuscript transmission. As Eichenwald himself acknowledges, “Most modern English Bibles have returned to the correct” reading. The reading is only “confusing” (as he also calls it) if one does not understand the Hebrew idiom. Now since it is the case that readers may not understand that idiom today, I think English Bibles serve their readers well if they convey its meaning in other words. The reading in the New Life Version (NLV), “John said to all of them,” does not “paper over” an “inconsistency.” It conveys the meaning in natural English where a Hebrew idiom might be misunderstood.

As for the Trinity itself, Eichenwald writes, “So where does the clear declaration of God and Jesus as part of a triumvirate appear in the Greek manuscripts? Nowhere.” But this ta-da statement is only true on one level: The actual word “Trinity” does not appear in the Bible. This, too, is something that people who believe in the Trinity and in the Bible as the word of God freely acknowledge. If you study systematic theology in seminary, as I did, when you get to subject of the Trinity, that’s the first thing you are told. But this does not mean that the concept of the Trinity is not clearly taught in the Bible. For example, Jesus himself told his disciples, as he was giving them his final instructions before ascending to heaven, “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” In his first epistle, the apostle Peter addressed his readers as people who had been “chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ.” The apostle Paul ended his second epistle to the Corinthians with this benediction: “May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.” And so forth. So the absence in Scripture of a word that was later adopted as a name for a doctrine does not mean the absence of that doctrine itself.

As for 1 John 5:7, “For there are three that testify in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one,” it is true that these words do not appear in any early Greek manuscripts. They appear to be a later addition. But once again, people who believe in the Bible as the word of God freely acknowledge this. The NIV, for example, puts those words in a footnote and explains that they are “not found in any Greek manuscript before the fourteenth century.” So this is further evidence of the self-correcting nature of the manuscript tradition and the use of it in modern Bibles. Moreover, belief in the Trinity does not depend on this one verse. As I have already shown, that doctrine is well expressed in other New Testament writings.

I hope that these observations will be reassuring to you. I am sorry that you encountered a biased, sensationalist article just as you had begun to understand the doctrine of the Trinity. I hope you will appreciate that that doctrine has a sound biblical and theological basis. It remains a paradox, a mystery, but as I have said in other posts on this blog, it nevertheless tells us essential and beautiful things about God.

In what way do “the heavens declare the glory of God”?

Q. There are two verses in the Bible that I’ve often seen used as proof texts to argue that science, done properly, will ultimately be compatible with any descriptions of nature (including creation) that are found in the Bible.

Psalm 19:1 – The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
Romans 1:20 – For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made.

In your view, what is the best interpretation of these verses? For example, in what ways do the heavens declare the glory of God and how have God’s invisible attributes been “clearly seen… from what has been made”? Should these verses be understood to be making broad claims about the existence of God from the existence of anything rather than nothing? Are they making other esoteric arguments from aesthetics and beauty? Would the biblical authors even have had these kinds of philosophical/apologetics-type arguments in mind, or does that import modern concepts into the text?

Psalm 19 does not say, “The heavens declare the existence of God.” It says, “The heavens declare the glory of God.” The psalm considers the existence of God a given, and it addresses people who also consider that a given. It is not speaking to the question of whether there is a God; it is speaking to the question of what God is like.

The psalm does not say specifically in what the “glory” of God consists that the heavens “declare.” However, we may infer something about this from the use of the sun as a specific instance of the general principle. The psalm seems to be saying that the glory of God is seen in the way that a single celestial object can make a circuit of the heavens and light up everything beneath. This seems to suggest the idea that the creation is orderly, harmonious, even beautiful, and in that way it exhibits the character of the God who made it.

The psalm pairs the statement “the heavens declare the glory of God” with the statement “the law of the Lord is perfect.” Those are the opening lines of its two halves. It has been said well that this psalm speaks of the “two books” of God, nature and Scripture. I think it is saying that we get some idea of God’s character from nature, and if we want to appreciate that character more fully and emulate it (among other things, in order to fit harmoniously into creation), we can learn about it in Scripture.

A similar observation might be made about the passage in Romans. Paul does not say that God’s existence is clearly seen from what has been made. He says that God’s qualities are seen that way.

As for arguments for the existence of God based on the idea that the universe must have come from something rather than from nothing, the Bible says, in Hebrews 11:3, “By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that the visible came into existence from the invisible.” This is something from something, the visible from the invisible, but I think the important thing is that the Bible says we understand this by faith. It is not saying that we should expect that rationalistic, scientific endeavor will confirm the existence of God as it explores the creation.

Indeed, on its own terms, science will never confirm the existence of God. Science, by definition, limits itself to what is observable and measurable. So science will never be in a position to prove or even assert that there is or is not a God. Any purported science that claims to speak to that question has moved into metaphysics.

Interestingly, however, science, also by definition, posits an orderly universe. For example, it posits that if a series of experiments demonstrates something in one place and time, that will hold true in all places and all times. If you hold a tennis ball out at shoulder height and release it 100 times, and it falls to the ground 100 times, you have a phenomenon to explain. The best explanation we know of that right now has to do with gravity. But no one is concerned that the ball would have risen rather than fallen if the experiment has been done for a 101st time.

I heard an excellent talk once that said that science cannot prove that the universe is orderly, and it certainly is not in a position to explain why the universe is orderly, assuming that it is, but that assumption seems to hold true, and it has produced useful results for many centuries, and so science keeps working with it. That’s as much as science can say. This does agree with the biblical description of a universe that is orderly and harmonious. But the idea that the universe is that way because it reflects the character of the God who made it is something that we know by faith. That, I would say, is what the Bible teaches on the subject.

What should a Christian do who is struggling with the doctrine of the Trinity? 

Q. What should a Christian do if he is currently struggling with understanding the doctrine of the Trinity? What should he do if he he is having a hard time viewing God as being one God who is three persons at the same time (i.e. that it seems hard to differentiate the doctrine of the Trinity from the idea of there being three Gods)? Should he just accept the doctrine of the Trinity on faith and accept on faith that the doctrine of the Trinity is monotheistic (e.g. “This is what the Bible teaches, and I know that the Bible is true, even though I don’t really understand the doctrine very well”)?

I think that one thing a Christian can do who is struggling with the doctrine of the Trinity is to recognize that the Christian faith involves many things that are paradoxes. A paradox consists of two things that seem as if they both cannot be true at the same time, but which are actually both true.

One paradox of the Christian faith is that God is three, but also one. But there are also other paradoxes. The kingdom of God is already here, but it is not here yet. Jesus on earth was both fully human and fully divine. God is completely sovereign, and yet human beings are morally accountable. And so forth.

The way to come to terms with a paradox that the Bible teaches is not to choose one side over the other, but to recognize that the truths of God surpass the capabilities of our human minds. We can trust what God has revealed to us in his word even if our minds are not yet able to grasp how two things that his word affirms can both be true at the same time. It may be helpful to think of the analogy of a child not understanding, for example, why his parents, who supposedly love him, are punishing him. The child is not yet able to understand that discipline is an expression of love. The child only feels hurt and humiliated, and people who love you are not supposed to hurt and humiliate you. But hopefully the child will appreciate, relatively young in life, that good parents correct and discipline a child for his own good, and that it is actually much less loving not to discipline a child.

Perhaps another way to come to terms with the doctrine of the Trinity is to work to understand it in light of what I think is the best analogy we have available here on earth. We don’t know any other beings who are both three and one, but we can consider that the spouses in a healthy marriage are two who have become one. There is no loss of individuality; rather, individuality is actually enhanced. But something beyond the individuals has also come into being, and yet it consists of those individuals: a married couple. That couple functions as a being of its own in many ways. For example, while the spouses have each other’s company, “sometimes the couple gets lonely,” as my late wife used to say, and the couple needs the company of another couple or of other couples.

Personally I also find it helpful to appreciate the implications of the doctrine of the Trinity. It means that at the core of God’s being is relationship, community, cooperation, and interdependence. Humans are created in God’s image, and so when we cultivate and experience these things as true worshipers of God, we are sharing in the essence of God. That is something that the doctrine of the Trinity has for us even though we are not able to grasp it fully with our minds. So I hope you will not see that doctrine as a burden, something you have to believe even though it is impossible for your mind to understand. That would be a burden indeed. Rather, see it as a doctrine that reveals something about the nature of God, by which I mean not his threeness and oneness, but his essential relationalness.

Well, my spell-checker is having trouble with the words in that last sentence! That shows how hard it is to put the doctrine of the Trinity into words. But that doesn’t mean that we can’t put it into practice.

Should we identify the modern state of Israel with the Israel of the Bible?

Q. I’ve been having a conversation with my daughter since this conflict between Israel and Hamas began. She says that the state of Israel and the land of Israel are not the same. She believes that is a misconception people have, and that we should not just blindly support Israel in the current war, because things are different now than when the Bible was written. I am unable to decipher a difference. Can you help me understand?

I agree that we should not equate the modern state of Israel with the Israel of the Bible. As I wrote in my previous post, the theocratic Israelite kingdom was an element of the previous phase of God’s unfolding redemptive plan. In our day, the people of God are a multinational community of believers in Jesus scattered throughout the world. God’s plan is to bring people from every nation into that community. The modern state of Israel is now one of those nations. So we should not give it an automatic preference in world affairs.

The current war between Israel and Hamas is having tragic consequences for thousands of people on both sides. The conflict between Israelis and Palestinians goes back generations, and it is difficult to see how it can be resolved when both sides wish for the destruction of the other. But I believe that Christians should advocate for the principles of human rights, the rule of law, and representative government (or, failing that, at least government whose primary concern is for the welfare of the people, not its own power). We should advocate for the free flow of goods and services and for the access of all people to the basic necessities of life. We should advocate for non-violent solutions to conflicts between people. I believe that biblical principles would lead us to do all those things, and they would lead us to do that without, as I said, automatically preferring one party over another.

Thank you for your question and for your sincere concern about this conflict. Let us pray for an end to it, for mercy on all those affected, and for a lasting solution to the issues in that region. And to the extent that we are able to do things in addition to prayer towards the ends I have described, let us do them.

Do Christians just pick and choose what they want to follow in the Bible?

Q. How should we answer a non-Christian who asks, “Why don’t Christians follow the Old Testament death penalty laws such as Deuteronomy 13:6-10 and Deuteronomy 17:2-5?” Are Christians just picking and choosing what they want to follow in the Bible? How would you explain the reason why Christians don’t follow these laws and why this is not Christians being inconsistent or just picking and choosing what to follow in the Bible?

If Christians actually are just picking and choosing from the Bible, then the criticism that you describe is deserved. That is, if Christians are simply lifting the statements they agree with off the pages of Scripture without considering their original meaning or context, but they are ignoring statements that they don’t agree with, then that certainly is arbitrary and inconsistent.

However, I actually hear a more serious charge in the criticism you describe. The claim seems to be that Christians can only pick and choose; that there is no reliable way to determine what Scriptural statements apply to us today, and how they apply, and so an appeal to the Bible can only be arbitrary and the Bible is not a reliable source of moral guidance.

That is simply not true. There is a process by which we can understand the biblical writings in their original contexts and then determine how we should apply them to ourselves today. That process is called “hermeneutics.” It is complex, and it must be followed carefully and humbly, always with an openness to understanding better and learning more, but it is objective and not arbitrary.

The basic idea is that all of the biblical writings address specific situations in the community of believers in specific times and in specific places. The task is to see how these “occasional writings” (as we may call them) also have a universal applicability, since God inspired them to bring his word to all people everywhere. To determine this, we must take into account the differences in culture, and even more so the different stages in the unfolding of God’s plan of redemption. Let me use the passages you cite as an example.

Deuteronomy 13:6-10 says that if a close friend or family member of an Israelite urges him or her to join in the worship other gods, that Israelite must turn that friend or relative in to the community authorities. The community must stone the offender to death, and the Israelite who was approached about worshiping other gods must throw the first stone. This is in the Bible, so why don’t Christians today say that we should kill anyone who suggests we follow a different religion?

We need to recognize that God’s redemptive plan moves from universal (dealing with all nations) to particular (dealing with one nation) to universal again. At the time when Deuteronomy was written, it was particular. The nation of Israel was a theocracy whose purpose was to model the life-giving way of life that came from worshiping Yahweh. In some cases, offenders against that purpose were executed, not to punish them for committing a specific crime, but in order to remove them from the community and thus restore its integrity as one in which Yahweh was worshiped exclusively and in the way he had specified. Clearly these considerations do not apply to us today, when the people of God are a multinational community scattered throughout the world. But we may still derive a moral lesson from this passage: “If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and worship other gods,’ … do not yield to them or listen to them.” The moral lesson is that we must put our loyalty to God before our loyalty to any friend or family member, no matter how close.

The case is the same with Deuteronomy 17:2-5, which says similarly that the community must stone to death anyone who, it can be proved, has worshiped other gods or the sun, moon, or stars. Christians today do not advocate for the death penalty for followers of other religions, and that is the proper way to interpret this text for our own context. Once again the purpose of the death penalty is to remove the person from the community, rather than to punish them for committing a specific crime. We can derive from this passage an emphasis on being faithful to God’s covenant with us and not giving anyone or anything else the worship that God deserves.

How can we show that writings of the apostle Paul are reliable and trustworthy?

Q. How can we show that the writings of the apostle Paul are reliable and trustworthy, especially to someone who thinks that Paul is wrong in some of the things he says?

Our confidence in the writings that we have from the apostle Paul that are found in the Bible is based on the fact that they are part of the canon of Scripture. That is, they are among the books that Christians have recognized, through a process led by the Holy Spirit over several centuries, as inspired by God.

In other words, our confidence is not in Paul as a person, although he was certainly a very learned, intelligent, godly, and committed man. Our confidence is in God, who chose certain people at certain times to be the instruments of delivering his word in writing.

In many cases, as in the case of Paul, the biblical authors did not realize that they writing Scripture, and they were not intending to write it. They were addressing specific situations in the life of communities of believers in specific places and at specific times. But God gave their words a timeless, universal quality that has made them applicable to all believers who have come afterward.

I should stress that our confidence in the Bible as the word of God is a matter of faith, not a matter of proof. In that sense, we cannot “show” anyone that they should have confidence in Paul’s biblical writings because those writings are inspired Scripture. People need to read the Bible fairly and open-mindedly, and when they do, because the word of God is “living and active,” the Holy Spirit may bear witness to their spirit that this is indeed the word of God. I have heard many testimonies of people who have started reading the Bible and found its words to be life-giving and transforming and, as a result, they have become confident by faith that it is the word of God.

If you have a friend who is having a particular problem with some of the things that Paul says, perhaps you could encourage this friend to read some other parts of the Bible, for example, the gospels, which record the life and teachings of Jesus. This may help give your friend an appreciation for the Bible as a whole, and then, when your friend can see Paul’s writings within the context of the entire Bible, he or she may not have such a problem with them.

The Bible itself says that the “things of the Spirit of God” are “spiritually discerned.” So getting someone to recognize the Bible as the word of God is not a matter of argument or persuasion. I think instead we need to invite people to read the Bible, starting with the books they are best in a position to appreciate, and pray that the Holy Spirit will speak to their hearts through what they read.

There are admittedly many passages in the Bible that people have trouble with. (That’s why there are hundreds of posts on this blog!) But those are not necessarily central to the message of the Bible. The core of that message is God’s redemptive love for us, culminating in the life, ministry, atoning death, and glorious resurrection of Jesus Christ. I would encourage you to point your friend towards those things. He or she may never come to terms with Paul completely. But your friend may come to appreciate the central and most profound message of the Bible and, as a result, find his or her own place in God’s ongoing story of redemption.

Why did God need to test Abraham?

Q. God asked Abraham to take his son Isaac and sacrifice him as an offering to God. My understanding has always been that he was testing Abraham’s faithfulness. But wouldn’t an all-knowing God have known the results of the test beforehand, making the test pointless? Or was this not really a test but something else? Perhaps an object lesson for Abraham? But what lesson?

The Bible does begin the story of God telling Abraham to sacrifice Isaac by saying that “God tested Abraham.” However, I don’t think we should understand the word “test” to mean that God did this in order to find out something that he didn’t already know.

That can be one sense of the word in Hebrew. That is the meaning, for example, when Eliphaz asks Job, “If someone tries to speak with you, will you be upset?” It is also the meaning when Moses asks in Deuteronomy, “Has any god ever tried to take one nation out of another to be his own?” In both of these cases, someone would be trying something without knowing in advance how it would work out.

However, the word can also have a different sense: to try with the expectation of success. Think of how a climber pulls down hard on a rope to make sure that it is secure before using it to ascend a rock face. That is testing with the expectation of success. The word has this sense in the Bible when, for example, Daniel says to the guard, “Please test your servants for ten days: Give us nothing but vegetables to eat and water to drink. Then compare our appearance with that of the young men who eat the royal food, and treat your servants in accordance with what you see.” Daniel expected success: He expected that the guard would see that he and his friends looked healthier than the others, and the guard also expected that this would reasonably be the outcome, or he wouldn’t have allowed the test.

I believe that this is also the sense in Genesis when God “tests” Abraham by telling him to sacrifice Isaac. God expected success. He had every reason to believe that Abraham would obey. So why, then, did he test him, if he knew in advance how things would turn out? I think there were at least two good reasons.

Jonathan Edwards wrote, “If something is excellent, it is excellent for it to be known.” So, for one thing, God was causing Abraham’s excellent trust in him and faithfulness to him to be known by demonstration. That continues to provide an example for us today. The book of Hebrews cites Abraham as one of the outstanding examples of faith, saying, “When Abraham was tested, he had faith and was willing to sacrifice Isaac.” I have heard many sermons referencing this story and asking what we ourselves might need to “lay on the altar” in order to be faithful to God, in order to put obedience to God before anything else.

But there was also a second good reason. The story of God asking Abraham to sacrifice Isaac is actually a polemic against human sacrifice. Modern readers are shocked when God tells Abraham to kill his son as a sacrifice. But the ancient audience would not have been shocked. People in those cultures did practice human sacrifice, particularly when they wanted a great favor from a god. If the followers of Yahweh did not do the same, the followers of other gods would conclude that Yahweh was not capable of doing great things and did not deserve expressions of extreme devotion. So when God asked Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, this may have given Abraham the impression that God was more concerned about his own reputation than he was about the promises he had made to Abraham, which were in the process of being fulfilled. But Abraham gave God the benefit of the doubt. However things might have appeared, Abraham knew that he could trust God to have good reasons and good motives for what he was asking.

And in the end, it turned out that God wanted to make it clear that those who worshiped him were not to practice human sacrifice. He provided a ram in place of Isaac. And that ram had already been “caught in a thicket” when Abraham arrived at Mount Moriah. In other words, even before Abraham reached the place where he was prepared to offer Isaac, God had already made provision for him not to offer Isaac. So in its original context, this passage would have been, as I said, a strong polemic against the human sacrifice that other cultures and religions practiced. This practice was later explicitly forbidden in the law of Moses. We today live in the aftermath of this divine disallowance of a reprehensible human practice, to such an extent that sermons can metaphorically ask us what “Isaac” we need to “lay on the altar” without us being shocked by the literal reality behind the metaphor.

So, to summarize, I believe that when God “tested” Abraham, God was not doing that to find out something he didn’t already know. Rather, God was allowing Abraham’s exemplary trust and faithfulness to be demonstrated, and God was also using the occasion to make clear that those who worshiped him were not to offer human sacrifices.

When and how did Paul become an apostle?

Q. When and how did Paul become an apostle? Was Paul an apostle or disciple? Or both?

I think we can say, on the basis of Paul’s own testimony during his trials as they are recorded in the book of Acts, that Paul became an apostle when Jesus appeared to him on the road to Damascus and sent him to proclaim the good news to the Gentiles. The word “apostle” literally means “one who is sent,” so the moment of Paul’s “sending” is the moment when he became an apostle.

When Paul was on trial before King Agrippa, he told him, “I was going to Damascus with the authority and commission of the chief priests. About noon, King Agrippa, as I was on the road, I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, blazing around me and my companions. We all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic, ‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’ Then I asked, ‘Who are you, Lord?’ ‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,’ the Lord replied. ‘Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a witness of what you have seen and will see of me. I will rescue you from your own people and from the Gentiles. I am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.’ So then, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the vision from heaven. First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and then to the Gentiles, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and demonstrate their repentance by their deeds.”

So that was when Paul became an apostle. As for whether he was also a disciple, yes, he was. The word “disciple” literally means a “learner.” In the context of the New Testament, it refers to someone who is learning from Jesus how to live in the way that God wants. In other words, it simply means a follower of Jesus. We sometimes speak of his “twelve disciples,” meaning the twelve men he chose to teach in a special way, and after his resurrection, when he sent them out to proclaim the good news, they became the “twelve apostles.” (One of them, Judas Iscariot, betrayed Jesus, and so he was replaced by another man, Matthias.) But that is a specialized use of the term “disciples.” Generally, it applies to any follower of Jesus, and so it also applies to Paul.

Is “thus says the LORD” God the Father speaking?

Q. Is it correct to say that whenever God speaks in the Old Testament, such as “Thus says the LORD,” it is usually the Father speaking, but on some occasions it may be the Son or the Holy Spirit? Or is it more correct to say it is always the Father speaking? Or is there a better way to view this?

I think the general theological principle involved here is that the members of the Trinity, even though they are distinct persons, do things together. We see this, for example, in the creation account at the beginning of the Bible. It says, “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth” (likely referring to God the Father). But this account then relates how the Father created by speaking, which would be the cooperative activity of Jesus, the Word. As the gospel of John says, “In the beginning was the Word … all things were created by him.” And in that account we also see the activity of the Holy Spirit: “the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters,” surveying the dark, formless world and no doubt planning how to bring order and light to it. So all three persons of the Trinity were involved together in the first divine action that the Bible relates, and I think that continues to be the case as the Bible progresses.

Even when the second person of the Trinity comes to earth and takes on human form, we continue to see this type of co-operation. Jesus said after one of his great healing miracles, “The Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does, the Son also does.”

I would apply this same principle to the instances of divine speech in the Old Testament. I think they are further examples of co-operation on the part of the Trinity. Interestingly, the book of Hebrews attributes to the Holy Spirit an oracle in Jeremiah that is originally spoken by “the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel,” who says of himself in that same oracle, “I am Israel’s father.” Hebrews says:

The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:

“This is the covenant I will make with them
    after that time, says the Lord.
I will put my laws in their hearts,
    and I will write them on their minds.”

Then he adds:

“Their sins and lawless acts
    I will remember no more.”

But, as I noted, when God speaks these words in Jeremiah, the identification we have of him seems to be that of the Father. But this is not inconsistent with the principle of co-operation among the persons of the Trinity.

Hope this is helpful!

Would a person encounter spiritual harassment for going to church?

Q. I went to church Sunday. When I got home, everything went wrong.
Could Satan be messing with me?

The Bible teaches clearly that all those who seek to follow and obey God in this life will encounter opposition from “the world,” “the flesh,” and “the devil.” These phrases refer, respectively, to the worldwide system of interests opposed to God; to that part of us that wants to live without regard to God; and to evil spiritual beings who hate God and work to defeat those who believe in him. It is often difficult to determine exactly which part of this evil triumvirate we might be up against, and so I find it helpful to think of them as a collective and not try to parse things any more finely. We can just say, “I think I’m up against the world, the flesh, and the devil here.”

However, it is also true that we human beings are perfectly capable of creating problems for ourselves! So when things go wrong, we shouldn’t automatically conclude that we are facing spiritual opposition. Nevertheless, sometimes, through spiritual discernment, we do get a sense that it is happening. Recently I suffered a minor injury right at a time when I needed good health and strength to do some important work for God. I was speaking to my pastor about this, and I said that I suspected the injury could be the result of spiritual opposition, although I also acknowledged that accidents do happen in this world. “We don’t need to blame the devil every time somebody stubs their toe,” I observed. “No,” my pastor replied, “but you can tell.”

I think that often we can indeed tell. The fact that you made a connection between going to church and “everything going wrong” when you got home suggests that perhaps, by spiritual discernment, you did recognize that “Satan was messing with you.” (That is, that you were up against the world, the flesh, and the devil.) I don’t know whether you meant that you had returned to church after some time of not attending, but if that was the case, then it would surely be likely that you would encounter turbulence as you moved from one set of commitments and activities to another set that reflected a renewed resolve to follow God. But even if you were already attending regularly, there might have been something in the experience of attending worship that day that had inspired deeper and stronger devotion, and it would not be a surprise if you encountered turbulence after that as well.

I would say that the most important thing to keep in mind in such situations is that the main goal of the forces opposed to God is to get you to act unlike a child of God. As one of my professors in seminary used to say, for as long as God has purposes to accomplish through you on this earth, “you are immortal.” The forces opposed to God cannot take you out. But if they can make you act unlike the son or daughter of God that you are, then that is a partial victory for them.

So even if one thing after another goes wrong and you are getting very frustrated, ask yourself, “How can I act as a child of God in this situation?” Recently an online vendor cancelled an order that I had placed and paid for, and the vendor only refunded a small part of the purchase price. Several weeks later, I am still trying to sort this out. But it dawned on me, when I first recognized the problem, “This is my chance to be nice.” I have made an effort to be very courteous with every person I have spoken with on the phone about this. They have noticed and thanked me for my patience. Will I eventually get the rest of my money back? I certainly hope so! But in the meantime, I want to act in this situation like a son of God.

So, I encourage you to continue attending church. Don’t let the turbulence keep you from that. Instead, you can say, “If the world, the flesh, and the devil are so upset about this, I should really keep doing it!” And if everything goes wrong again when you get home, see that as your chance to live in the situation as a son or daughter of God. God bless you!